With Fire in His Soul and Passion in His Blood, the Man is a Totally Bitchin’ Rockstar from Mars
by Jon Shakill
I said it; Charlie Sheen is a totally bitchin’ rockstar from Mars. His words not mine, but I’d have to agree. And no, the hilarious metaphor is not lost on me. Charlie is not an average man. The guy is funny- he’s a comedian, and he can act. He’s a movie star, TV star, and collector of the finest wrist watches in the world. He’s the comeback king who’s proven it time and time again, through all the ups and downs, and his relentless ability to reach the top after the occasional fall from grace. He’s been the hero and the underdog, but has never given up. He’s authentic and down to earth at his core, and isn’t afraid to say it like it is, a real straight shooter. He holds two records in the Guinness Book of World Records; one for being the highest paid television actor of all time, and one for the fastest person to reach 1 million followers on Twitter (he now has nearly 7 million followers). He’s also a cigar enthusiast with more than 150 boxes of cigars, who enjoys the occasional glass of 57 year old Macallan Scotch. Charlie Sheen is a man’s man.
Saying his name is itself capable of evoking a myriad of thoughts and emotions. Whether it is the bad boy image that’s so often seen in the media, the fairly recent Two and a Half Men “departure,” or just as likely, the fond memories of some of a generation’s favorite blockbuster movies. It seems rarer in the modern discourse that a person doesn’t have an opinion about Charlie Sheen. Whatever that opinion is, one thing is for sure— the man is by far one of the most successful actors of the last 25 years, and arguably one of the most successful actors of all time.
You may be asking yourself “how can Charlie Sheen be one of the most successful actors of all time?” Well right out of the gates in 1986, at the age of 21, the first major movie Sheen starred in, Platoon, won the Academy Award for Best Picture, as well as the Golden Globe for Best Drama, among other accolades. Readers may recognize the movie from the latest DirectTV commercial where Sheen does a brief comedic reenactment. The commercial marks the beginning of yet another comeback for Charlie, and underscores his ability as one of the few actors who’s reached the pinnacle of success in film, primetime television, and commercials.
Of course everybody remembers the classic financial movie Wall Street. The infamous Gordon Gekko played by Michael Douglas, teaches the fresh faced Bud Fox (Sheen) that “greed is good.” The movie, in which Gekko takes Fox under his wing in an insider trading scheme, is one of the quintessential depictions of corporate excess and financial fraud ever made. Charlie followed up the Wall Street epic with the 1988 blockbuster Young Guns, which opened at #1 at the Box Office. And who could forget bad boy reliever Ricky “Wild Thing” Vaughn, played by Sheen in the 1989 baseball comedy, Major League. In 1990, Sheen shared the big screen with Clint Eastwood in The Rookie; and in 1991, the comedy Hot Shots! debuted at #1, and grossed more than $180 million at the box office. In 1993, Sheen starred in two comedies: Hot Shots! Part Deux, which grossed more than $130 million, and The Three Musketeers which debuted at #1 at the Box Office. Winning?
In 1994, when he was just 29 years old, Charlie Sheen received a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. Between 1994 and 2004, despite facing various personal setbacks, Charlie starred or appeared in a wide range of feature films and TV shows. Although there are too many to list here, some of the highlights included Major League II, Money Talks, and Scary Movie 3. It was in 2001 that Charlie got his major television break, replacing Michael J. Fox as the star in the series Spin City. Just two years later, Sheen was cast as Charlie Harper in the primetime hit series Two and a Half Men, which would become the #1 comedy on television. Prior to being released from the show in 2011, in a media frenzy no less, Charlie became the highest paid actor in the history of television, earning some $2 million per episode. Winning!
Despite the public controversy surrounding the 2011 exit from Two and a Half Men, Charlie Sheen is back as strong as ever and ready to triumph yet again. Sheen stars in a brand new show called Anger Management, premiering on FX on Thursday, June 28th, 2012, at 9pm. The hilarious, if not ironic premise of the show, is Sheen starring as the character “Charlie,” a non-traditional therapist specializing in anger management. Having just finished filming the movie A Glimpse Inside the Mind of Charles Swan III, due out in 2013 and directed by Roman Coppola, Charlie is fighting his way back onto the top of the entertainment world. Interestingly, Roman Coppola’s father, Francis Ford Coppola, worked with Charlie’s father Martin Sheen on the 1979 classic, Apocalypse Now. According to Charlie, he has gone back to his roots with this movie, focusing on acting rather than the hype.
In the following interview, Lincoln Salazar and I sit down with Charlie Sheen, as well as his best friend, watch dealer, and social networking guru Bob Maron, as well as marketing guru Larry Solters. Bob Maron is the President of Robert Maron, Inc., which buys and sells some of the world’s most expensive and exclusive watches. Charlie and Bob have been the closest of friends for about 7 years now, sharing a passion for watches. Larry Solters, head of Scoop Marketing, is a behind the scenes operator responsible for some of the biggest marketing and public relations campaigns in the entertainment business. He was also once upon a time Executive VP of MCA Music Entertainment Group, and VP of Artist Development prior to that.
Over the course of the hour long interview, we learn about some of Charlie’s collections: over 150 boxes of cigars; approximately 20 very exclusive Dupont lighters; and 12 of the world’s most exclusive and important watches. We also hear some of Charlie’s thoughts on being a man’s man, and how he’s changed over the last year. Bob Maron provides some additional insights into the reality of working and hanging with Charlie.
Here is our conversation as it happened:
Jon Shakill: Before Charlie gets on the line I’d like to ask you Bob, tell me about your background and how you and Charlie became friends.
Bob Maron: I’ve been a watch dealer for 25 years. I was doing an online advertising campaign, and Charlie responded to a watch that I was advertising. He left a message about a watch that he was interested in buying. I actually didn’t get back to him, because I was just leaving for Europe and then had been in Europe when he was calling me. So when I got back I had another message on my machine, which was a typical Charlie Sheen, raving message. So I decided to call him back and our first conversation was about why I didn’t return his call, as well as about the watch he wanted. So that led to me selling him that one watch, and then many others after that. That was probably 7 or 8 years ago. We became best friends after that pretty quickly, going on vacations together all over the world.
Jon Shakill: So what about Twitter and Facebook, I understand you’re heavily involved with Charlie’s accounts?
Bob Maron: One year ago, Charlie called me up and said he just finished doing the Good Morning America show, it’s a crazy time, I’ve done the all the TV shows and radio shows, but there’s more I want to say to my fans- can you help me? I know that you’re on Twitter and on Facebook. I had been trying to get Charlie on the social networking sites for the full year prior to that and he wasn’t really receptive to it, but that morning we decided it was the perfect time to go ahead with it. Twitter really gave Charlie a new platform to be able to talk to his fans. When we first signed up for the account, there was so much hype surrounding it. All we did was sit back and wait, and watch the new followers roll in. It was crazy, we were up to a quarter of a million followers without making a single tweet! When we finally tweeted, it was all over the news an hour later and just went viral, that’s when it really took off. In the first 24 hours we got a million followers, and the growth has just been exponential. That’s when the Guinness Book of World Records got ahold of Charlie, and let him know that he had just set a new world record for the fastest to reach 1 million followers on Twitter. The next fastest before us was Howard Stern, who had gotten to 1 million followers in 30 days.
Charlie Sheen: This is Charlie here. I might add that we also beat the fastest guy to get to 100,000 followers- he did it in a day, and we did it in less than an hour.
Lincoln Salazar: Hi Charlie, I’m the Chairman and Publisher of Cigar & Spirits Magazine, and we have the Editor-in-Chief, Jon Shakill, with us as well. Cigar & Spirits is very much of a man’s man publication, and we thank you for your time today. Jon will be conducting most of the interview, so let’s get on with it.
Charlie Sheen: Sounds good, nice to meet you gentlemen.
Jon Shakill: Charlie, nice to meet you. Let’s jump right into it with discussing your love for cigars. How big is your cigar collection, and what are your favorite cigars?
Charlie Sheen: Hey Jon how are you. So as for cigars, I don’t claim to be an expert but I know what I like and what I don’t like. I can read a thousand different reviews and see some cigars rated 99 that I hate, and some rated 75 that I love. As far as brands, I really love Cohiba, Romeo y Julieta, vintage Davidoff, vintage Bolivar, Dunhill- I like to mix it up. Every once in a while I’ll smoke a Montecristo A, if I have seven hours to burn! It’s a commitment. I like a lot of the regional, double banded, cigars as well. You know, the other thing- I personally love a lot of Cuban cigars, all the really great stuff comes from the Vintage Cubans and even some of the contemporary ones. It’s a shame they aren’t readily available in the United States, because I’d probably own a lot more of them. I’m fortunate to own an unopened box of Cohiba Siglo VIs from 1991, and also a box of Romeo y Julieta tubos from 1957. The box of 1957 tubos is like a time capsule, there are 25 in a box and when I open up one of the tubes, it’s like it went in yesterday- it’s amazing.
Jon Shakill: How big is your cigar collection?
Charlie Sheen: My cigar collection is about 150 boxes or so.
Jon Shakill: Where’s your favorite place to enjoy a cigar, do you have a preference?
Charlie Sheen: It’s not really specific, sometimes in the backyard, or an after dinner party, maybe even a commercial airplane! (laughs) No not really, but it just depends. Whenever it feels like the right time, that’s when I’ll do it. It comes and goes in waves for me; sometimes I won’t smoke for 3 months, then I’ll smoke more often for 6 months, and then forget I have them. But it’s always nice that when I return to them, they’re still there.
Jon Shakill: So when you are smoking cigars, how many will you have in a day?
Charlie Sheen: Well there’s no specific formula, it depends on whichever way the wind is blowing. But sometimes I like to have a Cohiba Sublime Extra and follow it up with a Dunhill Don Candido ’72, something mild at the backend for a second cigar.
Jon Shakill: Do you have a particular cigar memory or an experience that comes to mind, that made an impact on you?
Charlie Sheen: Yeah, I was 16 years old and I was driving, and I was smoking a King Edward Swisher Sweet, just because someone had left it in my car. It was the first time I had ever smoked a cigar, and not long after I had to pull over so I could throw up! That’s pretty much how it all started (laughs).
Bob Maron: Charlie I know you also have an extensive collection of lighters as well, which would be interesting for the Cigar & Spirits readers.
Charlie Sheen: Well, I’m not really “schooled” on all the details of great lighters, but I own about 15 or 20 of the Dupont lighters that I really love. I don’t wear jewelry, so the only accessories I leave the house with are a nice lighter, a nice pen, and a nice watch. I don’t wear earrings, or bracelets and necklaces or any of that crap. I just like a good lighter, when you pull it out everyone notices that I don’t have a Bic. The only thing that sucks is that everyone wants to look at it, and when they open the top gas just goes flying out, but I don’t like to be rude. You know that moment Bob –
Bob Maron: Right, it’s that moment, it’s the worst— you want to carry around a beautiful Dupont lighter, and you don’t really want to let anyone use it, but you also don’t want to say, “No you can’t use my lighter!”
Charlie Sheen: And it’s always some hot chick that opens it for a minute while she’s telling a boring story, and she can’t get it lit because she’s trying to flick the actual flint wheel, right. Then I have to politely say, no-no give it back, let me show you. But other than that, they are kind of a pain in the ass to maintain. Usually when I leave the house with one, I’ll also stick a Bic in my back pocket as a back-up.
Jon Shakill: So what’s the most expensive lighter that you own?
Charlie Sheen: Honestly . . . well, I bought the Dupont Diamond Rain from the Prestige Collection, which they don’t make until you order it. It’s got like 489 diamonds all over it. It’s about $75,000; it’s solid white gold. You have to keep a roll of quarters in your other jacket pocket when you go out with something like that. But other than that, my collection is pretty much pedestrian Dupont’s and some Davidoff’s. [Editor’s Note: the ST Dupont Prestige Collection Diamond Rain Lighter actually has 1,098 diamonds covering the entire white gold body; only 352 have ever been made]
Bob Maron: Well what about all of your cigar brand Duponts? I’ve seen you give away more Cohiba Duponts than you’ve actually used!
Charlie Sheen: Yeah I know, I know. And when I buy the next one, I’m like “this one I’m keeping!” Then we’re there in the cigar lounge, and I always end up saying “here take it” to someone. I think Bob and I have exchanged something like 25 lighters.
Bob Maron: Yeah, every time I pick up a lighter I think, “oh Charlie gave me this one. Where is the rose gold version? Oh yeah I gave it to him.” I’ve never seen anyone give away more lighters than Charlie, his generosity is amazing— and with nice pens too.
Charlie Sheen: Well if it represents some epic evening, or something memorable that we all shared, I think it’s nice for someone to have a token of that.
Jon Shakill: Definitely, that’s great to be able to do that. OK, let’s move over to spirits now. So what is your favorite drink, and do you prefer it on the rocks, or neat?
Charlie Sheen: I’ve always said that ice is for injuries. You know, I’ve seen people chip teeth trying to get that last drop! So I guess the term would be neat, is that what they call it? (laughs) I like a good scotch, I like a vintage Armagnac if you can still get them- like a Napoleon or something really, really exotic. As far as wine goes, I’m kind of a Bordeaux snob; I just can’t find anything better. The problem is they only make so much of it from the years that I like. The ’96 and the ’99 Lafite for example are just amazing. I actually just had a party at my house recently where I opened up a bottle of the ’96 and a bottle of the ’99. When that happens, I start doing the math and it’s just ridiculous. I’ll look around and everyone is drinking a glass of wine that’s worth like $1,000.
Jon Shakill: I imagine that adds up pretty fast at a house party.
Charlie Sheen: It can, yes. Well even worse than that, you get the people that come over and start putting ice in the vintage Bordeaux! But the only thing I’m really an expert on is Baseball, not even movies or acting. So who knows?
Bob Maron: Let me tell you a quick anecdote before we move on. Larry, Charlie, and I were out celebrating Charlie getting the cover of Rolling Stone. And so the establishment we were at introduced us to a 57 year old Macallan Scotch, and when they told us the price of it, I insisted that we not drink it. About that time is when Charlie insisted that we drink double!
Charlie Sheen: Well that’s because no one had cracked the bottle yet.
Bob Maron: Nobody had opened the bottle, that’s right! We did it for the first time.
Charlie Sheen: Thinking of the clientele there, and who comes and goes, it was pretty amazing that no one had cracked the bottle yet. So I felt like it should be us.
Bob Maron: Well what’s remarkable is that we’ve been back since, and still no one has touched that bottle, which is surprising.
Charlie Sheen: Yeah, and it was this whole ceremony. They brought out a shot measurer and a guy on his knee to make sure he wasn’t going to spill a $200 drop of the stuff. It was really something. And it tasted amazing too. Not long after that I had some of the 30 year old Macallan, and I don’t want to say it was just as good, but it was pretty damn good too.
Jon Shakill: So you could tell the difference I gather.
Charlie Sheen: Well yeah, the difference when you get the bill is $2,800 versus $300. I guess it’s the extra 27 years— you have to pay for that.
Jon Shakill: Was that the most expensive drink you’ve ever had?
Charlie Sheen: For sure it was the most expensive drink I’ve bought out at a bar or restaurant. Like I mentioned before, back in the day I used to drink Napoleon Armagnac fairly often. So the most I’ve ever spent on a bottle of anything would have to be that, which at the time was about $7,000. But that same stuff today would go for like $24,000.
Jon Shakill: Do you still have any of that Napoleon Armagnac on reserve, or is it all gone?
Charlie Sheen: Yeah it’s done, it’s over, no more of that stuff left. It’s part of the Malibou Lake legacy now I guess.
Jon Shakill: So what do you normally drink when you’re smoking a cigar?
Charlie Sheen: Well, it’s kind of bizarre, but I drink either Grape Soda or Orange Crush, because of the way they mask any bitterness when I’m down into the final third of the stick. I’ve been experimenting with different types of sodas. I’m not a big drinker when smoking a cigar, because if you overdo it, you can just be talking then suddenly you’re puking on somebody, you know?
Jon Shakill: That actually leads me right into my next question. What would you say to the people out there who have the opinion that you drink too much?
Charlie Sheen: I’d tell them that I don’t drink any more . . . or any less. But really what I’d tell them is to mind their own fucking business. I mean it’s like, the last time I checked I wasn’t up in their grill counting their drinks, you know what I mean? It’s the quid pro quo, you know? I just think if people had more substantial shit going on in their own lives, they wouldn’t focus on other people so much. I believe people should keep their nose in their own plate. Everybody has some sense of entitlement to some inroad or conduit to unsolicited advice as to how to live your life in that regard. It gets tedious and redundant.
Bob Maron: Let me just add something to what Charlie’s saying. I’ve been drinking with him for 6 years, and I’ve seen him drink a lot of liquor, but there’s a difference between drinking and getting drunk. I think I’ve seen Charlie drunk twice. Who can’t say the same thing about one of their buddies?
Charlie Sheen: Both times there was a shooting, but we’re not going to talk about that.
Charlie Sheen: No but really, it’s part of my code, it’s part of my credo just mind your own freakin business unless somebody asks for it themselves.
Jon Shakill: That makes sense to me. So Charlie, with the understanding that you’re a major watch collector, some estimates put your collection worth about $5.6 million. Is that accurate?
Charlie Sheen: You know, I don’t really look at a collection based on its monetary value. I only have 12 watches, and it’s not about what they’re worth. I mean, it’s nice what they’re worth when you want to turn one over or sell it, or put it into a trade. But each watch represents something to me that either happened on the day that I bought it, or what was happening in my life when I made the decision to pull the trigger on it. The way Bob and I were doing stuff when we first got together, it was pretty epic. We had two cases coming out of Germany, and three dials coming out of Italy, and some other guy would send us vintage straps. There were moments Bob, what would you say was floating around globally in one trade with like eight watches, like $3 Million?
Bob Maron: Oh absolutely, at least.
Charlie Sheen: So it was really very exciting, it was very adrenal. And unlike most things that you have so much passion for, then it arrives and sucks, with Patek Philippe there’s never a letdown. Especially when you’ve only seen photos and you’re waiting for something for a couple weeks or a month, or whatever, and it finally shows up—it’s a pretty cool moment to say the least. You can feel the history and the artisanship involved in this ridiculously incredible timepiece.
Jon Shakill: So what’s your favorite watch, or the watch you wear on a day-to-day basis?
Charlie Sheen: I just started wearing a Patek Philippe 5078 Repeater. I really don’t want to set myself up for a street mugging here though. But anyways, the great thing about Patek is that it doesn’t scream Bling, it doesn’t stand out like a piece of jewelry. It’s just a nice timepiece. Really the most important thing is that it’s not just about the artifact, but like with any collection, it’s how something really speaks to you and what it means to you. Like I’ll see someone wearing a Panerai with wrists as small as mine, and I’m like “dude, it’s okay if everyone in the world doesn’t see your watch today.” It’s like the guy who smokes his cigar so everyone can purposely see the band on it.
Jon Shakill: How long have you been collecting watches? Is it something you grew up with, or just gained an appreciation for as an adult?
Charlie Sheen: I’ve been wearing a watch since I was like 6 years old. It’s something I’ve always loved and grew up with.
Bob Maron: Charlie is a very astute collector of watches, he has an uncanny ability to seek out and determine what’s going to be the next timeless watch that maybe wasn’t yet recognized. From the first time that I spoke with him, he called me about a very simple watch, but it was a very important watch. It was a Patek Philippe 5022 rose gold with a rose dial, which was incredibly rare. It seemed like a simple Calatrava, but it really wasn’t. It was rose gold, and had an engine turn dial, and at the time some people thought of it as a silly watch. But today it’s an important watch, and it’s worth twice as much as it was 7 years ago.
Jon Shakill: Bob, who is your typical buyer of the vintage Patek Philippe? Can you tell us more about Charlie’s collection from your expert opinion?
Bob Maron: I specialize in the vintage Patek, and virtually all of the people that I sell Pateks to are either overseas or are “well ahead” in years. It’s people that remember these watches and wished they’d owned them in the 1940s and ‘50s, and here you have Charlie a young guy in his early 40s at that time, talking to me about the 1947 Patek. I didn’t have any other customers like that. There are very few guys our age that are collecting watches from before we were born, as most people gravitate toward modern watches. Charlie also has some incredible modern timepieces as well. Charlie has an eclectic collection from some of the rarest, more important vintage watches anywhere in the world, and also some of the rarest modern watches. There’s always something about his watches that make them unique—they’re always 1 of 1, or 1 of 2, or 1 of 3 ever made. I’ve been doing this for 25 years, and there’s still times when Charlie will tell me something I didn’t know about a watch, I mean he really does his research. Few people know how astute he really is when it comes to the things that he’s interested in. He has this incredible quest for knowledge. He really has impeccable taste, which is probably what has made him such a successful collector. His collection is worth considerably more today than what he’s paid for it. It has to do with his ability to foresee what will be collectible.
Charlie Sheen: And also, for instance, in the film I just did with Roman Coppola called A Glimpse Inside the Mind of Charles Swan III, I wore a 1940s stainless 565 Calatrava. Which, Bob, is one of the best examples of that watch, wouldn’t you say?
Bob Maron: It’s two-fold, a reference to a 565 is to begin with probably the iconic Patek Philippe Calatrava made in the last 50 years, of all that have been made. The specific one that Charlie owns is probably the rarest and most sought after dial in the world. There are probably 1, or maybe 2, other watches in the world that are equal to that quality. It’s a two-tone bulls-eye dial, with Arabic numbers, which is like the one that sits in the Patek Philippe museum. And it wasn’t just luck, it was research and patience.
Charlie Sheen: It’s sentimental now as well, because it was what I wore during the movie, so it will be part of my permanent collection. I can’t get rid of it now. There are some watches that just leave the factory absolutely perfect, and that’s been 95% of the Pateks for me, but occasionally I’ll get one, especially when Bob gives it to me with a brown strap, it’s like, you might as well just shove my mother Bob! (Laughs). I got a thing about brown straps, I just don’t wear them.
Jon Shakill: What was the inspiration that sparked your passion for watches?
Charlie Sheen: Well like I said, I always wore a watch as a child. At age 12 I was in Tokyo with my family, and insisted that Mom buy me a gold Seiko World Time, which I still have believe it or not. The first actual decent watch I owned was a Concord.
Bob Maron: Wow, you know Charlie, we’ve never actually had this conversation before, but the first watch I ever owned was a Seiko also, and the first decent watch I ever owned was a Concord. That’s amazing.
Charlie Sheen: Wow, that’s great.
Jon Shakill: Interesting, I can tell you guys have a serious passion for watches. Why don’t we turn to a couple other topics briefly. Charlie, I understand you were a car collector as well, is that something you’re still into?
Charlie Sheen: Well I used to be a car collector, but I’m really not anymore. I’m not even a driver anymore, I’m just a rider. I ended up selling all my cars.
Bob Maron: Didn’t I buy your last car from you Charlie? It was a 1970 Chevelle LS6 Convertible, black with white tuxedo stripes, 1 of 17 made.
Jon Shakill: OK, so let’s touch a little bit on your career. What’s your favorite movie that you’ve made?
Charlie Sheen: The most fun I ever had making a movie was actually on Three Musketeers, and also most recently the film I just finished working on with Roman Coppola. I had an absolute ball. I went from making $2 million a week, to making $1,700. At some point it’s really not about the dough, it’s about the experience, the people, it’s about whatever you’re going to encounter and the realities of each day. I don’t really think I’ve made my favorite movie yet. But the film I just finished working on was great. It was the first time in a long time that I felt very relaxed and had fun with it. I parked the ego, I parked the vanity, and I parked all the bullshit, and just hit the marks and said the words. I didn’t complicate it.
Jon Shakill: It sounds like you got back to the roots with this new movie.
Charlie Sheen: Yeah, exactly
Jon Shakill: How do you view your place in history as an actor?
Charlie Sheen: That’s something I really choose not to comment on, because it comes across as grandiose. I mean as far as my place among actors, I can’t really say, because I don’t have perspective on it. I leave that for other people to figure out.
Lincoln Salazar: Charlie, you portray an image of being a man’s man, someone who doesn’t take crap from anybody. Can you tell us what it means to you to be man’s man?
Charlie Sheen: Really it comes down to the fact that I have true passion for the things that I care about. Sometimes people can interpret my passion as anger or rage or something else, but really it’s not. It’s just passion, I don’t know how else to describe it. But when there’s no passion, then it becomes inauthentic. Then you know you’re doing something that doesn’t support your personal code. There’s always those nights when it should end, but it doesn’t. And I always say to people, “what’s a better story in 20 years, that we all went home? Or that we went another direction and made it memorable.” So I’m usually the one who puts out the challenge to see who really has some salt in their soul.
Lincoln Salazar: So having passion and living with authenticity.
Charlie Sheen: Also, pedicures and not manicures. Especially if you played a lot of sports like I did, your feet can get destroyed. I always tell people Michael Jordan had them twice a month. Don’t do manicures. I also don’t use hair products that obviously change the color of my hair, I don’t wear the shirt or fashion of the moment because by the time dinner is over the fashion will labeled as out. I wear the stuff that I’m comfortable in, that fits right. It’s like, I collected Andy Warhol paintings for years, then one day I looked around and I have nothing but soup cans, soup boxes, and dollar signs on the walls, and I’m thinking “what the hell is this?” It’s 1960s advertising. He was a genius and a trailblazer, but at some point you ask yourself, did I buy it because I liked it? Or because I wanted to sell it? Or what. It really just speaks to having conviction about the things that you do. I love the tequila commercials with Michael Imperioli because he’s pretty much laying out a lot of the stuff that should be fixed, or needs to be abolished. I don’t know, it just feels like guys have lost their balls quite frankly.
Lincoln Salazar: I believe that guys should stand strong and have their voice heard, and having that passion is key. Something I’ve gotten from you in this discussion is that you believe in passion, relationships, and living life to its fullest.
Charlie Sheen: Yes of course! I mean this thing life isn’t a rehearsal. I had a buddy die just a couple weeks ago from prostate cancer and it was just awful. It was my dear friend Zalman King. You realize in those moments—which it shouldn’t take moments like that— that you cannot alter or capture or purchase or in any way manipulate time.
Lincoln Salazar: What’s something that you want to leave behind as your legacy for fellow men?
Charlie Sheen: Just that I’m a guy that inspired people to seek the truth. To seek the truth in whatever you’re doing, whether it’s relationships, or your job, or recreationally, if you’re embracing the truth then you’re right at the epicenter, and you’re in the middle of it. There’s something else that I’ve discovered recently, which is that it’s also about the moments in between the moments. It’s not always about the big party, or the fancy car, or the beautiful date. It’s the moment outside of all that, where it’s a quiet, personal moment. The moment of reflection, or of some epiphany where you peek inside and find out what’s wrong or what’s great, or what’s both. When you can recognize those moments, and actually feel them and realize it, I think that’s where life exists.
Bob Maron: That’s all the time we have guys, thanks for including me in the interview.
Charlie Sheen: Hey guys, this is great, thank you.
Jon Shakill: It’s been fun, thank you.
Lincoln Salazar: Thank you gentlemen for your time, we very much appreciate it.