Obviously, they make your personal boxing Mount Rushmore. Others?Wow. This is so hard. I would look at guys from different perspectives. I would look at Lester Ellis.
Lester Ellis. “The Master Blaster.”
Yes. George Foreman. Sugar Ray Robinson.
No doubt, right?
So many people deserve to be up there.
What about Jack Johnson, Rocky Marciano and champions of previous eras? Do you think those guys would be able to hold their own with current boxers?
No way. I don’t believe that. Guys are just bigger and stronger. Much stronger. A different kind of human being—even though they trained longer and harder back then—the fighters today train smarter.
Just their sheer physicality, training methods, nutrition, etc.
Right. The older generation fought longer than fighters now, though. Today, they get that money. One fight now, you get $20 million. You don’t have to fight again.
Isn’t that just something?
A guy doesn’t have to be a better fighter now, just a big attraction.
I’ve spoken to people who come from a similar background who grew up in neighborhoods like Brownsville [Brooklyn] as you did. Point being, it’s not so easy finding the right path. We all have a calling in life. Did you choose boxing or did boxing choose you?
Boxing, big time, chose me. Big time. Once it was introduced to me, then it was a wrap. I wanted to be more acquainted with it and pursue it. Like “This is what I was going to do.” I felt this was absolutely it.